TBHC - Competition #7(ish) - From the Vault

[quirkzoo1]

In this post-apocalyptic beer wasteland adventurous homebrewers are needed to re-establish civilization and bring society back to the beer paradise it once was.

We can hammer out the details based on the yeast selected but the general outline will be:

We select a yeast from the White Labs - Yeast Vault
We pre-order a pitch, and if/when the threshold is met it is shipped to us
We determine a reasonable time frame for fermentation and shipping
We all brew using the same yeast with no other limitations in terms other ingredients/styles

Please only vote in the poll if you plan on participating in the competition. I am allowing unlimited answers in the poll since I would be happy trying a couple different strains and once one of them hits enough to run a reasonable comp, we will go for it.

kuemmelbrau
Five28 hz
SirDickButts
PepeSylvia
MKLEVER42
Vogt52
FTowne
Beerontwowheels
bum732
ShawDeuce22

Feel free to tag others that might be interested or suggest other guidelines for the comp, i.e.

Should we limit it to a certain style? or couple of styles?
Should we just scrap the lager comp and do this whenever the yeast becomes available?

 

[Vogt52]

Hansen, Leewonhoek or the Brett

 

[PepeSylvia1]

I am pretty flexible, but would prefer a quicker fermentation so we don't have to wait 6 -12 months to find out if the yeast just sucks. I voted...

 

[Vogt52]

I am pretty flexible, but would prefer a quicker fermentation so we don't have to wait 6 -12 months to find out if the yeast just sucks. I voted...

That's a great point

 

[Der Fuchs]

Honestly, I'm down for anything but the cider strain. Oh, and no hefe strains either.

 

[Vogt52]

The Hansen yeast is the closest to shipping

 

[pdurrrr]

How many people would a participant ship to? just 1 person or ship to everybody?

 

[Vogt52]

How many people would a participant ship to? just 1 person or ship to everybody?

Good question. I'm not trying to break the bank shipping homebrew.

 

[sliverx]

Good question. I'm not trying to break the bank shipping homebrew.

ship to a central person x bottles with a return label. Central person mixes bottles and sends back. Or that's how I assume it happens.

 

[FTowne1]

I'd be up for whatever yeast seems to be the most likely to become available.

 

[pdurrrr]

I'd be up for whatever yeast seems to be the most likely to become available.

Seconded

 

[SirDickButts]

I'd be up for whatever yeast seems to be the most likely to become available.

Seconded

Thirdededed..

 

[Ziggy]

Working with Vogt52 on this one. Gonna throw in a vote.

 

[FTowne1]

Thirdededed..

 

[Five28 hz]

I'm DTF any of em, but I voted for torulaspora just because it's fun to say like bucca de beppo

 

[SirDickButts]

Gosh, I wish we could have gifs for avatars....

 

[Five28 hz]

Gosh, I wish we could have gifs for avatars....

Gene - can we make this happen?

 

[quirkzoo1]

ship to a central person x bottles with a return label. Central person mixes bottles and sends back. Or that's how I assume it happens.

Correct. Everyone ships n-1 bottles (n=number of participants) to me with a return label. I rearrange so that everyone gets one of each beer not their own and send them back to you.

 

[Five28 hz]

Correct. Everyone ships n-1 bottles (n=number of participants) to me with a return label. I rearrange so that everyone gets one of each beer not their own and send them back to you.

Organizing and hubbing? You're a god dammed saint.

Send this man some extras with your boxes ya heathens.

 

[PepeSylvia1]

Correct. Everyone ships n-1 bottles (n=number of participants) to me with a return label. I rearrange so that everyone gets one of each beer not their own and send them back to you.

This is awesome, I am pumped!!!

 

[pdurrrr]

Correct. Everyone ships n-1 bottles (n=number of participants) to me with a return label. I rearrange so that everyone gets one of each beer not their own and send them back to you.

I may have to sit this one out. Looks like theres plenty of participants and I have yet to brew a batch of mead bigger than 1 gal. Would hate to scale up for the first time here and send out bottles that taste like crap

 

[quirkzoo1]

So a couple of thoughts.

The Hansens blend sounds interesting but they say it is best used in an IPA and it seems odd to brew a very hop forward beer for a comp that is ultimately about the yeast.

The Saison Blend also sounds interesting and makes sense as it would be a yeast driven beer but who wants to brew a straight sacc saison anymore.

Torulaspora and Debaryomices are cool just because I have never even heard of those genus before. But both would require using another strain for primary. I like the idea of seeing different expressions of the yeast due to different primary strains and different grain bills but that seems like more of a long term project.

The Funky Cider blend sounds really interesting to me, but I can't even make a good regular cider so I don't feel qualified to try a funky cider. Also most of us primarily brew beer so a cider comp seems like a separate question.


With all that said, Hansens blend is closest to shipping, and I was planning on brewing up an IPA soon, and it could be cool to see how the yeast conveys different hop profiles.

 

[Vogt52]

I'm liking the way the voting is looking! I'm down with a pale ale or a Saison!

 

[ShawDeuce221]

who wants to brew a straight sacc saison anymore

While I totally agree......

We have 10 people thus far, 12 to fill a shipper. That's around one gallon of beer in 12oz bottles. Either brew a 6 gallon batch (if your setup can bang that out) or a 5 gallon batch and FUNK up the other 5 or 4 gallons for your own pleasure. At least...that's what I would plan on doing.

 

[Five28 hz]

So a couple of thoughts.

The Hansens blend sounds interesting but they say it is best used in an IPA and it seems odd to brew a very hop forward beer for a comp that is ultimately about the yeast.

The Saison Blend also sounds interesting and makes sense as it would be a yeast driven beer but who wants to brew a straight sacc saison anymore.

Torulaspora and Debaryomices are cool just because I have never even heard of those genus before. But both would require using another strain for primary. I like the idea of seeing different expressions of the yeast due to different primary strains and different grain bills but that seems like more of a long term project.

The Funky Cider blend sounds really interesting to me, but I can't even make a good regular cider so I don't feel qualified to try a funky cider. Also most of us primarily brew beer so a cider comp seems like a separate question.


With all that said, Hansens blend is closest to shipping, and I was planning on brewing up an IPA soon, and it could be cool to see how the yeast conveys different hop profiles.

The saison "blend" doesn't sound like anything more than the French and dupont strains in the same vile. Much rather do something from their vault that I can do with slurry I already have.

I think your right about the hansens being the best option for quick turn around that leaves the comp open for those that can't lager

 

[SirDickButts]

Hansen is down to 95 orders.

 

[Vogt52]

Hansen is down to 95 orders.

Yeah my vote is for that blend because it's so far ahead of the other strains in votes

 

[Patoo]

I'm in for this one. Neat idea.

 

[Vogt52]

Any update guys?

 

[SirDickButts]

Hansen is down to 78

 

[quirkzoo1]

Seems like we have enough interest to go ahead and pull the trigger. With Hansens Ale and Leewenhoek in a tie according to the survey, I am going to make the executive decision to go with Hansens Ale since several people indicated:

I'd be up for whatever yeast seems to be the most likely to become available.

Please post in this thread after you have pre-ordered the yeast and I will add you to a separate conversation where I will keep track of participants.

If you are on the fence about this one:

 

[quirkzoo1]

Also, in light of the yeast selection I want to reiterate the rules:

1) We all use the Hansen Ale Blend and no additional yeast or bacteria may be added (yeast starters are okay*)
2) Beer only. No cider, mead, prison hooch, etc...
3) No other limitations in terms of ingredients, methods, style...

* I think it will be interesting to see if there is a perceptible difference between starter vs. non-starter beer since it is a blend and theoretically the ratios in the blend would change depending on the conditions in the starter.

 

[FTowne1]

No prison hooch, etc...

Sorry, I'm going to pull out of this comp.

 

[Five28 hz]

Sorry, I'm going to pull out of this comp.

Pulling out doesn't always work, there's active sperm swimmers in your pre-order too.

 

[coldcrash1]

Looks like there's still an open slot or two in the 12-shipper so count me in.

Who knows when the yeast will actually ship, but should be fun...

 

[Vogt52]

Pre - ordered. IllbeBOCK and I are in.

*Edit We're in as a team BTW. Cuz he's a shitty brewer

 

[quirkzoo1]

Sorry, I'm going to pull out of this comp.

serious or just making a prison hooch joke?

Looks like there's still an open slot or two in the 12-shipper so count me in.

Who knows when the yeast will actually ship, but should be fun...

So does this mean you have placed your pre-order? I don't want to be a dufus about it, but with the high dropout rate in the last comp I want to try to get a clear number of people that are officially "in"

Pre - ordered. IllbeBOCK and I are in.

*Edit We're in as a team BTW. Cuz he's a shitty brewer

Added to the convo.

 

[FTowne1]

serious or just making a prison hooch joke?



So does this mean you have placed your pre-order? I don't want to be a dufus about it, but with the high dropout rate in the last comp I want to try to get a clear number of people that are officially "in"



Added to the convo.

Just jokes

 

[PepeSylvia1]

I preordered mine

 

[Five28 hz]

I'll get my pre-order in tomorrow.