Heavy hearted up in Santa Rosa this afternoon. Pretty bummed to have to post this but here goes... Last July there was a shit-trade turned manic giveaway thread called ISO:A&G FT: Ratio Over the course of two months we had daily giveaway and over 80 boxes were committed to in the end. At a certain point I became the unofficial host of this LIF cesspool in so far as that I was tracking who had promised things and who had received them. This was mostly borne out of me wanting to do a giveaway based on how many giveaways had happened, but then I realized the thing had enough gravity to deserve some level of tracking so I stuck with it. I was mostly surprised at the enthusiasm with which people met their obligations. No one seemed to need any reminding and many amazing boxes were promptly sent. Sadly. now 9 months later everyone has fulfilled their promises except kbhess who had the following: 1) He was part of a team effort which mzdoja won, and nothing was shipped. 2) He also ran a seperate one that both GuisseppeFranco and abawol01 both answered at the same time. He offered to send boxes to both, but privately abawol01 declined his box and just requested that kbhess send an even better box to GuisseppeFranco but as of now nothing has been shipped. Technically, this was not a strictly run thing and as such there were no shipping deadlines. Still, I think most would agree that 9 months is a reasonable amount of time to start calling shenanigans. Furthermore, the following has transpired in private before opening this public complaint. - kbhess has promised directly to both in PM months ago that he will be shipping "soon". - kbhess told GuisseppeFranco back in January of this year he would be in NY in March and would like to do an IP thing, but then did not follow through with this. - I contacted kbhess on March 21st telling him I needed stuff shipped by April 3rd or I would have to start a thread. On April 3rd, I heard back and we negotiated an extended deadline of Monday the 10th. - I wrote on monday the 10th asking if he would be able to fulfill the promise and the message is still unread, but kbhess was last seen online yesterday. Something that adds to my frustration is that kbhess won 5 separate giveaways in that thread and received all of them, including one from sunnrider which involved him shipping internationally. Knowing that, even after shipping these two boxes out, he still did quite well for himself... but then did not ship his two boxes.... that bums me out. Another thing that frustrates me is that kbhess has continued to use ISO:FT here and presumably closing and shipping trades in the time these have been opened. So... that's where things are at here. I know that kbhess is a longstanding member of this forum and of his local beer community. I do not think he is a bad guy. I really loathe the pitchfork tar and feather shit that happens on the other board when things go sideways. But some level of response is appropriate here... Sadly mzdoja is now much less active on TB and confirmed my suspicion that part of that owes to the bad feelings about the way this transpired and the lack of accountability involved. That sucks. GuisseppeFranco is a notorious sweetheart and aesthetic contributor to TB. We enjoy his contributions everytime we "proper glassware". He deserves to be made whole. So, i'm not sure where to go from here. I think most people would be less excited to receive a box at gunpoint... so we may be past the point of specific performance... but I hope not! I'd love to see kbhess just get a few boxes in the air sometime in the next week so we can water under the bridge this motherfucker... but I guess if nothing gets sent by next Friday (4/29) im going to start putting together a few consolation boxes myself and just put this behind us.