AMA Official Pipeworks AMA

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  1. CansIn2022

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    Because I said so Jeb. :D I don't know I flipped a coin... seriously though, we went back and forth on it. I honestly can't remember the reason we finally settled on 16oz format. One plus for us is that because we are self distributing, (24) 16oz cans fit in a case (yes it's slightly taller), opposed to (24) 12oz cans... thus each case we deliver is moving (6) units or 3 gallons of beer opposed to moving (4) units or 2.25 gal.

    I'll try to get a few more answers in today or tonight.
     
  2. jeblikesbeer

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    hahah because I said so is a perfectly reasonable answer, and the it fits more for self distro is another.
     
  3. CansIn2022

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    Yes and no to the first part. It is less expensive to package but also the margins on kegging are much slimmer. At our small output it didn't make a lot of sense for us to keg off a lot of beer. As we reposition it makes increasingly more sense to keg our beer. Draft essentially works as advertising and we didn't need to do a lot of that to get started. As we take the next step we know it's important to have that kind of access to our product. And we'll be able to do it economically too with the increased economies of scale with the new place.

    Yea Daisy Cutter is cheaper than Lizard King on draft because it's 5% pale ale. Lizard King was almost 7% so it cost a little something extra to make. And I can't speak to the hopping practices of others but I know we are probably on the high end there as well. Also that economies of scale thing comes in... were on our 3rd year and are at 2,000 bbls / year. Half Acre and others are in a different ball game completely. HA is at 15k bbls last year, Finches at 10k I think, Rev did 50k+... our prices will come down as grow. But Lizard King was a venture into an area where we aren't established yet and it's coming out of our current facility so it's costing us more than it would if it was being produced at the new place. We're working our way there. If I can get Lizard King, at 6%, to $9.99 for a 16oz 4-pack I'll be happy.
     
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  4. Treebs

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    I think a lot of people will (me included).
     
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  5. jeblikesbeer

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    me as well... read jeb will buy way to much of this...
     
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    Loooove this AMA.
     
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  7. disapowzment

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  8. disapowzment

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    Also CansIn2022 why can't we be Facebook friends?

     
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  9. jeblikesbeer

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    he dosnt wanna have weird drunken fb moments with you dusty :/
     
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    I really appreciate the insight into this stuff, so thank you for this great response. And I really like where you guys are headed. Like others have said, I wouldn't blink twice at a $10 4pk of your beer.
     
  11. CansIn2022

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    I'll try to get some more answers in tonight or mañana.
     
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  13. CansIn2022

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    I failed out of spanish class so I'm guessing Mañana doesn't mean next week like I thought?
     
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  15. disapowzment

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    Give him a break. He's trying to get the canning line up and going so we can buy NvU in cans.
     
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  16. CansIn2022

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    i'm very excited/eager to answer this one... hence why it has taken so long to get to it... i answered the easy ones first. so give me a month or so... (or several years; 2022) i'm a bit 'verklempt'... =) we definitely have some regrets and i'm glad to share them with you guys. just gotta be in the 'write' state of mind to express them...
     
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  17. CansIn2022

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    that's a 'don't drink beer' joke incase you didn't know... =) brewers have feels too yo
     
  18. CansIn2022

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    on another note, the production facility made some substantial progress this past two weeks... new timeline is cans by June 1... but contingency of mid-June to July 1st... my target is June 1 though (and that's still a real possibility hence why it's my target).
     
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  19. jdhende

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    CansIn2022 Easy quick question what barrels were used for the recent BA abduction and BA Jones dog release? If I remember correctly you guys used some really old like 28 year old barrels for batch 209 of BA Jones dog. That beer was the best you've ever made IMHO.
     
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  20. CansIn2022

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    # batch beer filled date vol type date emptied
    23 209 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (Anchient) 135 4/11/2014
    24 209 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (Anchient) 135 4/11/2014
    25 209 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (Anchient) 135 4/11/2014
    26 209/210 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (Anchient) 135 4/11/2014
    27 210 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (EC12) 115 4/11/2014
    28 210 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (EC12) 115 4/11/2014
    29 210 IMPJD 9/19/2013 53 HH (EC12) 115 12/11/2013 <- was blended in with the 12oz release bottles

    72 440/441 ABD 4/24/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/30/2015
    73 440/441 ABD 4/24/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/30/2015
    74 440/441 ABD 4/24/2014 53 4R (SB) 0 1/30/2015
    75 440/441/383 ABD/MOABD 4/24/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/30/2015
    76 403 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    77 403 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    78 403 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    79 403 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    80 403/404 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    81 404 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    82 404 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015
    83 404 IMJD 5/13/2014 53 HH (EC12) 135 1/31/2015

    25-30 year old Ancient Ancient Age was the old barrels used for 209,
    210 in Elijah Craig 12 year,
    440/441 in EC12's and 4roses small batch
    403/404 EC12's