US - Pacific The Official Modern Times League Of Partygoers & Elegant People Thread

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Do you like burritos?

  1. Yes all of them!

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  2. No, I should go to the taco thread

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  3. Yes but I'm anti adjuncts

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  4. Cali Reeters are the so hnnnnnng

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  1. Xul

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    August 2019 Preview Tasting

    Assorted Notes:
    1) In case you've been living under a rock and somehow missed all other mentions, the Festivals of Dankness will be taking place 08/24 in San Diego and 08/31 in Portland. The VIP tickets for San Diego sold out entirely to League members, marking the first time that's ever happened for one of MT's major festivals. Hopefully, the first of many times.

    2) As Steven and Leanne had previously mentioned, there will be Midnight of the Monsters-style events centered around the MT Ultra beers. Details on tickets should be coming this week, but we were told that every location except North Park will be holding an event (even Encinitas) and that most of them will be on Labor Day weekend. I didn't catch which location will be a couple weeks later. Keep an eye on your inbox, you won't want to miss that one.

    3) Tentbier will be returning next month, once again in 19.2oz cans. They've been happy with the response to the lager releases so far. As long as we continue to purchase them, we can expect to see frequent releases of a variety of crushable styles. There's also been some talk of creative packages for lagers - 12packs, 18packs, etc. - but all of that is still in the conceptual stage.

    4) More importantly, there will be a canned batch of Foeder Ice coming later this year. Start making space in your refrigerator now. Throw out those years-old condiments you never use. Get used to buying fewer vegetables. Perhaps even kick out your roommate/significant other/children so that their food isn't taking up valuable real estate. I can think of no better use for fridge space than cans of Foeder Ice.

    5) Steven also teased a new batch of Cloud Daggers for later in the year. He seemed to wait until everyone had stopped asking questions, then would drop a nugget like that to spur interaction. I think the takeaway here is to sit in complete silence and let the teasers roll in.

    The Beers:
    1) Lilliput
    Style: Kolsch-style Ale
    Score: 3.75
    Notes: This was pretty much the ideal way to start a tasting on a warm Sunday afternoon - "just the job," as some might say. The aroma opens with a rich dose of honey, layered atop sweet, doughy biscuits. Pears and citrus follow while floral hops float around the background. The first sip reveals a far drier experience than the nose indicates. Crispy white bread gives way to lightly-candied lemon, herbal tea, hop-derived floral notes, and a faint grassy character. The discrepancy between the sweet aroma and dry flavor and body is a bit disconcerting but doesn't derail an otherwise quaffable crusher.

    2) Star Projector: Tiki Edition
    Style: Mega-Berliner w/ Pineapple, Orange, Coconut, & Nutmeg
    Score: 3.25
    Notes: For those who may not recognize the ingredients, this was inspired by the Painkiller, which - as Steven was all-too-eager to say repeatedly - is a trademarked name that belongs to Pusser's Rum. To pay tribute to what happens to be my favorite tiki drink - as well as a phenomenal Judas Priest song - they added 3 lbs/gallon pineapple and orange, 5 lbs/barrel coconut, and a touch of nutmeg to their 10% ABV mega-Berliner base. The nose opens with a quick hit of nutmeg before heavy coconut takes over, followed by juicy oranges and subtle pineapple. Not terribly acidic on the nose, thanks in large part to the heavy coconut. On the palate, pineapple and orange pulp hit first, followed by unsweetened coconut flesh and light nutmeg that never rises beyond a supporting role. A burst of acidity comes in on the finish, mingling with the pineapple and coconut to form a bit of a strange finish that lingers on the palate just a bit too long. The adjuncts don't come together in the intended fashion for me - I wouldn't call it bad, but it's disjointed and misses the mark. I'd love to try more cocktail-inspired sours - kettle or barrel-aged - but it would seem wise to tinker with them at a draft-only scale.

    3) Deeds & Exploits Aged in Bourbon Barrels w/ Coffee & Vanilla
    Style: Blend of BA Strong Ales w/ Vanilla & Bourbon-and-Vanilla Infused Coffee
    Score: 3.5
    Notes: The base blend is 60% Infinity Gauntlet aged in bourbon barrels for twelve months and 40% Cloud Daggers aged in bourbon barrels for seven months. They used 3 lbs/bbl Tega & Tula Farm Ethiopian coffee beans, which they conditioned with bourbon and vanilla for 24 hours before roasting. Vanilla was added at a rate of 1 lb/bbl, comprised of a blend of Madagascan, Mexican, Ugandan, Tahitian, and Papua New Guinean beans. The aroma opens with a somewhat-harsh wave of coffee grounds that yields to marshmallow, light brown sugar, sweet vanilla, bourbon, semisweet chocolate, ethanol, and faint oak character. The coffee rounds a bit as it warms, but retains an edge that's absent in most of Modern Times' coffee beers. The flavor mostly follows the nose, with bourbon-soaked coffee grounds out front, followed by marshmallow and sweet vanilla. Toffee, turbinado sugar, cocoa, and alcohol heat meld on the mid-palate, giving way to a thin, boozy finish. There's an underlying harshness that runs front to back on the palate that seems to be derived from the spirits-infusion process used on the coffee beans. It stands in sharp contrast to the level of refinement found in most of Modern Times' barrel-aged stouts, barleywines, and strong ales. By no means does it ruin the beer, but it's an unavoidable distraction that knocks the overall score down. For the sake of context, I scored it lower on Untappd than anyone else from the Sunday tasting, so perhaps I found the heat and harshness more offputting than most people.

    4) Analog: Barrel-Aged Riesling Edition
    Style: Saison/Wine Hybrid Aged in Red Wine Barrels
    Score: 4.5
    Notes: This batch is a blend of 70% saison and 30% riesling juice sourced from Lo-Fi Wines, co-fermented with house cultures, then racked to red wine barrels for six months. Unlike the last batch, this had no contact with the grape pomace, nor did it spend any time in an amphora. The riesling asserts itself on the nose with a bright melange of fruit leaping out of the glass - grapes, apricots, and pears dominate, while papaya and sweet lemon lurk - followed by oak, restrained vanilla, barnyard funk, and faint white pepper. Soft lactic adicity leads on the tongue, followed by vinous notes that transition into stonefruit with hints of pineapple and papaya poking through. Oak wafts around in the background along with vanilla and funk, giving way to an effervescent and lightly acidic finish of pears and vinous notes. While this edition lacks the minerality of the last release, it's no less enjoyable.

    5) Analog: Red Cabernet Franc Edition
    Style: Sour Red/Wine Hybrid Aged in Red Wine and Port Barrels
    Score: 4.25
    Notes: This version of analog is even more of a departure from prior editions, as it's a blend of 58% sour red ale and 42% Lo-Fi cabernet franc juice. It was aged on the grape skins for five days, co-fermented with house cultures, then racked to red wine and port barrels for six months. The smell on this was deftly balanced, with soft acidity, moderate funk, light vanilla, oak, barrel-derived port notes blending seamlessly with wine-derived plum, roasted pepper, and light tannins. If you're sensitive to acetic acid, have no fear - this isn't vinegar, it merely plays a supporting role in a rich and diverse tapestry of aromas. On the palate, acidity plays a slightly more prominent role, although it's still neither overly acetic nor harsh. The cab franc character shines through brilliantly as bright grapes, and plums mingle with a savory, peppery component. Oak and port notes assert themselves before a long finish of moderately acidic wine with touches of aged balsamic vinegar.
     
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  2. DannyFullpint

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    Foudre

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    Ice
     
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  3. hi im richie

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    Deeds & Exploits stock just dropped.
     
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    Is this the lowest average point score you've given for a preview tasting, Xul ?
     
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  5. rcubed

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    A reminder to form your own opinions on these beers!

    ;)
     
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  6. Xul

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    I don't know for sure, but I'd assume so.

    Agreed. Deeds & Exploits, in particular, seems polarizing thus far based on feedback elsewhere.
     
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    Right? I loved it. Maybe not my favorite even in just the past few months, but certainly worthy (to me) of a multiple bottle purchase. There is something unique about the coffee beers MT has been putting out. It used to be my favorite adjunct but lately my tastes have shifted a little.

    Also, the beers have been so stellar in the past 18+ months that when you start comparing them against themselves, something's gotta finish on the 'bottom'.
     
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  8. Xul

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    September 2019 Preview Tasting

    Assorted Notes:
    1) It seems like using the patio for previews was pretty popular based on conversations after this evening's tasting. My only real issue was the smell of wort wafting around for the first part of the tasting. As much as I enjoy that aroma, it was a bit distracting while trying to pick apart the beers we were sampling. I suspect that was a bit of a freak thing since the wind usually blows in the opposite direction.

    2) Derek commandeered the mic before we got started to reveal the dates for several upcoming events. All of these are in San Diego unless specifically noted:
    10/30/19 - Pumpkin Carving/Halloween
    11/03/19 - MT Dog Show
    11/29/19 - Black House Black Friday (there's also likely to be a PDX version, but that's TBD)
    12/15/19 - Christmas Party/Winter Market
    12/26/19 - Hanukkah Party
    02/01/20 - Carnival of Caffeination
    04/25/20 - Festival of Funk
    08/29/20 - Festival of Dankness SD
    09/12/20 - Festival of Dankness PDX

    3) We can expect a couple more single varietal ciders to come out this year, all aged in red wine barrels. They're also working on a more accessible cider that will start out as a draft beverage but could eventually be canned depending on customer response and resource availability.

    4) Bubble Party Hard is coming soon on draft. Move over White Claw, Modern Times is comin' to getcha.

    5) Someone asked if Modern Times has any plans to collaborate with Three Chiefs and Andrew implied that there's a distinct possibility for that in the next few months. If you're unfamiliar with Three Chiefs, think Horus but even smaller scale.

    6) It sounds as though Tentbier 2019 is even better than the 2018 batch. I'm looking forward to verifying that next week, but in the meantime, get hype.

    7) All three of this month's IPA releases sound great, but Andrew specifically mentioned Sky Party as one of his favorite hazy IPA releases to come out of Portland.

    8) Nectarnomicon Raspberry Blast (made with raspberries, cranberries, and vanilla) will be coming soon. It sounds like it should be available on release day, but the logistics are still TBD.

    9) This is the last online sale before Theory invites go out. As they've mentioned in the past, invites are based on spending (with October 2018 - December 2018 being added to this year's total), longevity as a member, event attendance, online forum participation, and general elegance. Off the record, I'd assume that showing up at Steven's apartment at 11pm on a Thursday night with steaks and pastry stouts will also boost your chances.

    10) League members will be able to buy gift memberships for friends before League 2020 sales open to the public.

    11) Rewards for 2018 tasting points will be announced at some point after this month's sale.

    12) POS systems are tracking points at all locations. Points have not been retroactively uploaded to the new POS system but will be counted during the process of determining Theory invites.

    13) If you haven't listened to Mgla's new album "Age of Excuse" yet, you should remedy that immediately. You might think you have no interest in nihilistic black metal, but I suspect you just haven't spent enough time with the genre. And yeah, this has nothing to do with Modern Times, but if I'm going to spend as much time as I do on these notes, I'm going to insert editorial comments from time to time.
     
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  9. Xul

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    Had to split the post in two as it exceeded the character limit for one post...

    The Fermented Barley Juices (credit to Andrew for this fantastic new synonym for "beer"):
    1) Radix: Single Varietal Wickson Cider - Batch 2
    Style: Apple Cider
    Score: 4
    Notes: As with the original batch, this is made from 100% Wickson apple juice. However, this new iteration is a blend of cider aged in red wine barrels and cider aged in amphorae, with each type of vessel contributing roughly half of the final product. The aroma opens with big, bright apple juice followed by assertive barnyard funk - horse blanket, hay, and a chicken shit note that's a bit distracting compared to more pleasant forms of funk. Vanilla and oak are present but restrained, while minerality and faint winter spices waft around in the shadows. The palate opens with light acidity before apple juice takes over with tropical fruits mingling - think pineapple and touches of papaya. Moderate funk and minerality follow along with supporting oak notes, leading to a funky, juice-laden finish. An effervescent body that's suited ideally to the style. I didn't enjoy this quite as much as batch one, but anyone who enjoyed it should still be a fan of this.

    2) Mega Devil's Teeth Aged in Bourbon Barrels w/ Pistachio & Coconut
    Style: Bourbon BA Stout w/ Pistachio & Coconut
    Score: 4.75 (4.65ish)
    Notes: The base is a blend of Mega Devil's Teeth batches aged from eight to twelve months in bourbon barrels. On the adjunct front, they used roasted pistachios, along with a blend of both toasted and untoasted coconut - leaning towards the toasted end - that totaled such a massive amount that they had to add it to both their external recirculation vessel to fit all of it. That decision shows itself immediately, as rich, toasted coconut leaps out of the glass and dominates the first few whiffs of the glass. Lightly-roasted pistachio follows - a note which increases steadily as the beer warms - along with light touches of vanilla, bourbon, semisweet chocolate, and hints of marshmallow. As the various aromas weave together, it almost takes on a bourbon-tinged Almond Joy character. Certainly not a bad thing. Pistachio is more evident on the tongue as it hits first with hues of fat and rich, slightly sweet nuttiness, joined quickly by a huge wave of coconut. Bourbon and light oak pop hard on the mid-palate along with dark chocolate and subtle vanilla, melding into a coconut-driven finish with heavy doses of chocolate and barrel. The body is slightly heftier than regular Devil's Teeth but doesn't tread into the full-blown thickness of beers like Dragon Mask and Beastmaster. It's always a bit difficult to remember a two-year-old beer clearly, but I recall the original batch having a better balance between coconut and pistachio. As much as I enjoy what Modern Times does with coconut, I would've preferred this showcase pistachio just a bit more. That's definitely nitpicking though, and the way certain nut-driven beers have been received, I can understand a cautious touch.

    3) Chaos Grid: Breakfast Lord
    Style: Bourbon BA Pastry Stout w/ Coffee, Vanilla, Bourbon Barrel-Aged Maple Syrup, & Candy Cap Mushrooms
    Score: 4.5
    Notes: The base blend is comprised of one bourbon barrel of Dragon Mask aged for 20 months, one bourbon barrel of Oblivion Ring aged for nineteen months, three bourbon barrels of Suggestion of Mass aged for eleven months, two Kentucky whiskey barrels of Dragon Mask aged for twelve months, one bourbon barrel of Beastmaster aged for ten months, and one bourbon barrel of Monsters' Park aged for ten months. And a partridge in a pear tree. The complexity of the adjunct mix isn't far behind, as they added Madagascan vanilla, Mexican vanilla, Idea Machine coffee, bourbon barrel-aged maple syrup, and candy cap mushrooms. For those who haven't been exposed to candy caps yet, they smell and taste absurdly similar to maple syrup. Set aside your preconceived notions of what mushrooms would add toa beer, believe me. The nose opens with roasty, slightly acrid coffee, but maple syrup comes in quickly to smooth out the rough edges and provide a balancing sweetness. There's a faint mushroom-derived earthiness that dovetails nicely with the coffee, both as a complementary aroma and in preventing the maple syrup from running roughshod. A hefty dose of dry cocoa works its way to the forefront eventually, along with supporting vanilla, restrained bourbon notes, and touches of marshmallow. The flavor proves to be a bit more refined, as vanilla, maple, and sweet dark chocolate hit first. Smooth coffee - far more pleasant than on the nose - joins the fray, along with vanilla and a richer barrel character than the nose indicates. The constituent elements meld into a sort of boozy maple mocha finish that coats the palate on the way down. The body doesn't quite reach the viscosity of Dragon Mask or Beastmaster, but it's certainly not thin. I suspect that the coffee will recede a bit within a couple of months and leave the beer feeling more refined than it does now, but even in its current form, it's delicious.

    4) Doom Hawk
    Style: Pastry Stout w/ Vanilla & Coconut
    Score: 4.5
    Notes: Brewed in collaboration with Horus Aged Ales, Doom Hawk features a fairly absurd amount of specialty malts including Double-Roasted Crystal, Pale Chocolate, Golden Naked Oats, and many others. The boil ran for roughly twelve hours and, after fermentation, finished at approximately 19* Plato. For those of you who aren't familiar with the brewing process, your average IPA doesn't even have a _starting_ gravity that high, let alone finish with that much residual sugar. The finished product features five varieties of vanilla - Mexican, Madagascan, Ugandan, Tahitian, and Indonesian - along with 500 pounds of toasted coconut. Sweet vanilla leads the way on the aroma with touches of marshmallow, but the complex malt bill asserts itself quickly with notes of sweet dark chocolate, lightly-burnt caramel, toffee, and cake batter. Coconut wafts around and breaks through periodically, but mostly remains a supporting element. The palate opens with massive vanilla, but semisweet chocolate, deep caramel, and coconut quickly join the fray. Marshmallow, brownie batter, fudge, and dense macaroons all come to mind as various flavors dance across the palate, leaving a long, sweet finish. This is likely the thickest stout that Modern Times has produced - certifiably thicc - and hits every note I want from a non-BA pastry stout. I have a feeling it will be a bit divisive - overly-sweet sugar sludge for some, just right for others - but it clearly hits their intended goal. This is the sort of shit Wilford Brimley dreams about.

    5) Singular Rhythms
    Style: Foeder-Aged Saison w/ Boysenberries & Blackcurrants
    Score: 4.25
    Notes: This is the first bottled beer to come out of their foeders, and if it's an indication of where that program is headed, I'm quite pleased. Funk leads the way on the nose, bringing together both barnyardy and earthy elements - horse blanket, hay, and damp forest floor - along with juicy berries, restrained dark fruits redolent of currants and grapes, light acidity, touches of floral tea, toasted rustic bread, and a firm but restrained oak note. Fruit plays a more prominent role on the palate as bright boysenberries hit first, complemented by currants and an almost dried Black Mission Fig flavor. A mild dose of lactic acidity lays the groundwork for funk to dominate the mid-palate along with backing oak and grassy/floral notes. Fruit returns for a long, lightly-acidic finish backed by oak. Lively on the tongue with effervescent carbonation, it's a crushable 5.5% but interesting enough to want to sip and pick apart. I'm really loving the restrained acidity in this, and I hope the foeder's culture continues to evolve in a funk-dominated direction.
     
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    DT and Chaos Grid were the tits.

    Doom Hawk is yet another terrible Horus collab. Tasted like (and had the body of) sunscreen.
     
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    bummer about doom hawk. I had a OH/Horus collab a few months ago, cinnamon churro something. It was actually pretty !
     
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    I'm pretty sure Doom Hawk will give you diabetes as well. That's a higher finishing gravity than even Dark Lord. Might as well start drinking flavored wort.
     
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    To rough quote ole DDB. “We get the beer scene we deserve “
     
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    Congrats Xul for getting your own beer
     
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    no glitter, no care Xul
     
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    It's about time they bottled it. I mean, shit...if a pleb like me can get a beer released, one would only hope Xul would get his released.
     
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    can someone post a description?

    i look forward to reading Xul's unbiased tasting notes on it soon
     
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    A liquid homage to one of our favorite Theory of Leisure members, Cassidy (A.K.A. Xul), this bourbon barrel-aged imperial pastry boi was loaded with peanut butter, cocoa nibs, vanilla, coconut, and almonds. It’s as decadent as it is delicious, and a worthy tribute to one of the chillest dudes ever.
    ABV: 13.5%
     
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    It's not part of the preview tasting, so it's a blind buy. I can make something up if you'd like, and throw in a lot of polysyllabic adverbs to really sell the dream.
     
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    Pretty sure Xul hates Sage