World famous chef spends night at Mikkeller; swears off good beer

[LukeAleTime]

http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/david-chang-cheap-beer

 

[quirkzoo1]

http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/david-chang-cheap-beer

Discussed this in another location (cc: RochesterAaron). Chang makes great food (I haven't personally had it, but I hear good things, and I like what I have cooked out of his cookbook), but singling out beer in this conversation is retarded.

Your phrasing in the title though, spot on.

 

[LukeAleTime]

Your phrasing in the title though, spot on.

I got absolutely no love on twitter for it though. I was so excited when I thought of it.

Also the following debate on social media is painful already. It's brutal.

My thoughts: who cares - he doesn't say he hates good beer, just that he likes shitty beer. Eh. I can live with that, and he's right, we are boorish as **** as a community.

 

[bum732]

So a fancy chef doesn't like fancy beer. Is this like rain on your wedding day?

 

[user 306809]

Whatever. Chefs are servants who shouldn't be famous anyway.

 

[arren]

He's not wrong. He does say he likes all the good beer, but doesn't like drinking it on the regular.

And to be fair, he has a great point. Black Tuesday and BA Abraxas are good, but nobody's ever said, "**** it's hot, I need to pound back a refreshing pint of adjunct stout to cool me off" while watching sports or whatever.

I'd even argue that the reason why "Vermont-style" IPAs came in vogue was because every stupid neckbeard wanted an IPA that was "closer to water" than a lot of the "you are not ****ing worthy you unxxxtreme ****" hopbombs that were prevalent a couple years ago, and still are, to an extent.

 

[lb304854]

Yeah and I don't want a $200 smoked pork butt either.

And no wonder he doesn't like 'fancy' beer; he spent all that time drinking Mikkeler.

 

[ApocalypseZombie]

And no wonder he doesn't like 'fancy' beer; he spent all that time drinking Mikkeler.

 

[user 306809]

He's not wrong. He does say he likes all the good beer, but doesn't like drinking it on the regular.

And to be fair, he has a great point. Black Tuesday and BA Abraxas are good, but nobody's ever said, "**** it's hot, I need to pound back a refreshing pint of adjunct stout to cool me off" while watching sports or whatever.

I'd even argue that the reason why "Vermont-style" IPAs came in vogue was because every stupid neckbeard wanted an IPA that was "closer to water" than a lot of the "you are not ****ing worthy you unxxxtreme ****" hopbombs that were prevalent a couple years ago, and still are, to an extent.

So he's uneducated on what's out there and writing as if he is an expert. Basically your typical internet *******.

 

[SirDickButts]

And no wonder he doesn't like 'fancy' beer; he spent all that time drinking Mikkeler.

 

[Wassailwilly]

This makes as much sense as saying Roja Dove doesnt like fancy colognes

 

[arren]

So he's uneducated on what's out there and writing as if he is an expert. Basically your typical internet *******.

Pretty much. He probably doesn't give a **** either.

Neither do I - Tecate may be piss, but it's refreshingly delicious piss.

 

[RochesterAaron1]

Discussed this in another location (cc: RochesterAaron). Chang makes great food (I haven't personally had it, but I hear good things, and I like what I have cooked out of his cookbook), but singling out beer in this conversation is retarded.

Your phrasing in the title though, spot on.

Quirk is dead on in his assessment.

I'm a huge Chang fanboy, but I'm not really sure what the point of writing this was. If he really thought craft beer didn't pair well with food then why does he sell it in his restaurants? I doubt anyone would ***** if he took it off the menu. I ordered a bottle of Jolly Pumpkin Weizen Bam when I ate at momofuku ko and thought it went with the food just fine. The free pour of a kolsch that Kelso brewed for them not so much.

 

[johnnyramirez]

Pretty much. He probably doesn't give a **** either.

Neither do I - Tecate may be piss, but it's refreshingly delicious piss.

Pacifico, brah.

 

[Lutter]

I like shitty lager beer sometimes too.

This guy sounds like such a ****ing hipster though. He also writes "I'm not a hipster," which confirms it.

 

[Der Fuchs]

"I don't want something that tastes delicious. I am not being falsely contrarian or ironic in a hipsterish way. This is something that I genuinely feel: I do not want a tasty beer."

Hahahahahahahahahaha


That guy is so resentful about his own occupation he basically argues against any high end foodstuff ever under the guise of beer. He must really hate his life. Self loathing at its finest.

 

[regularjohn]

good thing GQ is a reputable source for all things craft beer

 

[arren]

Wait, since when was it hipster to hate on craft beer, not drink it? Have I been doing things wrong all along?

 

[eyesonsaison]

Wait, since when was it hipster to hate on craft beer, not drink it? Have I been doing things wrong all along?

damned hipster if you do, damned hipster if you don't

 

[LukeAleTime]

 

[SeaWatchman]

good thing GQ is a reputable source for all things craft beer

It's also being discussed on BA if you want a second reputable source.

And RB if you want a third reputable source...

....and it's being discussed here.

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[lb304854]

I don't think he's a hipster, just a ****** who shouldn't even be famous as per JoeLikesBeer's post.

 

[regularjohn]

It's also being discussed on BA if you want a second reputable source.

And RB if you want a third reputable source...

....and it's being discussed here.

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whats BA AND RB??????

 

[quirkzoo1]

whats BA AND RB??????

Bon Apetit

And

Root Beer

 

[drbenzo1]

De rail this thread before people start giving any shits about some GQ article...
With GIFs!

 

[sacrelicio]

Yeah and I don't want a $200 smoked pork butt either.

And no wonder he doesn't like 'fancy' beer; he spent all that time drinking Mikkeler.

I'll eat Taco Bell with my fancy barrel aged saison.


doyouevenuwotm8bro

 

[BadJustin]

So a fancy chef doesn't like fancy beer. Is this like rain on your wedding day?

 

[ficklenicholas]

 

[litheum94]

But 95 percent of the time, I don't want something that tastes delicious.

Hope he doesn't approach his cooking the same way.

 

[bdogg1]

 

[Hopping Tiger]

David Chang is trying to hard.

 

[quirkzoo1]

David Chang is trying to hard.

Trying to hard what?

 

[Hopping Tiger]

dammit

 

[drgarage1]

At least Chang is honest that he has a dreadful beer palate. Tony Bourdain tries really hard to pretend he can appreciate good stuff.

http://www.travelchannel.com/video/what-to-do-in-san-francisco

 

[LukeAleTime]

At least Chang is honest that he has a dreadful beer palate. Tony Bourdain tries really hard to pretend he can appreciate good stuff.

http://www.travelchannel.com/video/what-to-do-in-san-francisco

Gordon Ramsay wins them all. He's like a child. (Edit: I should add, the dude peddling beers does not help the cause)

 

[bdogg1]

Gordon Ramsay wins them all. He's like a child. (Edit: I should add, the dude peddling beers does not help the cause)

WTF would you give him a stout? LMMFAO.

 

[Lutter]

Gordon Ramsay wins them all. He's like a child. (Edit: I should add, the dude peddling beers does not help the cause)

Please tell me he ends up making a barrel aged beer himself.

 

[user 306926]

Whatever. Chefs are servants who shouldn't be famous anyway.

And no wonder he doesn't like 'fancy' beer; he spent all that time drinking Mikkeler.

Thank you, gents.

 

[Kirkse]

Jeppe's response... http://eviltwinbrew.tumblr.com/image/100252763929

Not sure why he is so butthurt... I thought he hated mikkeler too.

 

[drgarage1]

Garrett Oliver's response was the only appropriate one: mocking Chang for his massive hypocrisy.
http://www.gq.com/life/food/201410/garret-oliver-crappy-beer