Staring at the beer menu, Koch began to criticize the selection. More than half of it, he said, wasn’t worthy of being served—inadvertently insulting the establishment’s owner, who unbeknownst to Koch was sitting next to him. Then Koch interrogated the beer manager about the offerings. Unsatisfied with the answers, Koch complained about the beers so intensely that an employee at the bar teared up. Koch rose from his seat and walked into the keg room, where he started checking freshness dates on his competitors’ kegs.
Today’s craft-beer industry is highly balkanized and new breweries are much smaller, eclectic, and artisanal, with brands such as Sexual Chocolate Imperial Stout, Duck-Duck-Gooze, and Blind Pig IPA. In addition to hops, today’s beer nerds crave pedigree and a good story. They want to know what farmer grew which type of hop on what farm, and whether the brewery can be trusted.
ah, America. always in search of something better and stomping on its past.
the guy did start off fighting the good fight. created a business that eventually challenged the big boys and opened the door for many, many (too many?) people to charge through.
he succeeded, writ large, in much the same way as a lot of entrepreneurs would like.
it's hilarious to me that people hate him. he's a pioneer. this is bashing the Ramones because they aren't punk enough for today's tastes.
I don't see many 'stomping' on Koch. Should we continue drinking his beer when there are so many better options just because he was there first?the guy did start off fighting the good fight. created a business that eventually challenged the big boys and opened the door for many, many (too many?) people to charge through.
he succeeded, writ large, in much the same way as a lot of entrepreneurs would like.
it's hilarious to me that people hate him. he's a pioneer. this is bashing the Ramones because they aren't punk enough for today's tastes.
"Staring at the beer menu, Koch began to criticize the selection. More than half of it, he said, wasn’t worthy of being served—inadvertently insulting the establishment’s owner, who unbeknownst to Koch was sitting next to him. Then Koch interrogated the beer manager about the offerings. Unsatisfied with the answers, Koch complained about the beers so intensely that an employee at the bar teared up. Koch rose from his seat and walked into the keg room, where he started checking freshness dates on his competitors’ kegs."
Yeah, what a hero.
I know I care immensely about which farm my beer's hops came from. IMMENSELY.Hah, just came here to post that article. The opening paragraphs are just painful, this in particular:
Not sure what's worse: him throwing a hissy fit over the beer selection, or someone actually "tearing up" about it.
Also this had me partly laughing, partly shaking my head:
Incredible overuse of the word "hipster" as well throughout that article.
I don't see many 'stomping' on Koch. Should we continue drinking his beer when there are so many better options just because he was there first?
Tastes have changed. He didn't keep up with the times. He's mad about it.
A good description of Jim Koch, no?
The funniest part of that paragraph you quoted is that we choose our beers based on whether or not we can trust the brewery. There are so many dipshit brewers out there that perform PR seppuku nearly every week, and yet we still flock to their tasting rooms to scoop up the latest whale. We don't have a romantic relationship with these ****ers; it's more friends with benefits than anything.Incredible overuse of the word "hipster" as well throughout that article.
the guy did start off fighting the good fight. created a business that eventually challenged the big boys and opened the door for many, many (too many?) people to charge through.
he succeeded, writ large, in much the same way as a lot of entrepreneurs would like.
it's hilarious to me that people hate him. he's a pioneer. this is bashing the Ramones because they aren't punk enough for today's tastes.
He got to the top through innovation. Many had not experienced beer like his prior. It is strange to see him now damning other breweries for being innovative.pretty much, yes
and what is happening/has happened to Sam Adama is happening to Stone now. and Goose Island. and it will happen to (insert new'ish popular brewery) in 10 years and it will happen to (insert nano-brewery of the moment that takes off) in 10 years, etc.
we love it and we cheer it on and we build it up... until we get tired of it.. then we relish in tearing it down, stomping it to bits and pissing on it.... until we yearn for how great things used to be and we bring it back.
wait for the boomerang, Jim! you're almost there!
He got to the top through innovation. Many had not experienced beer like his prior. It is strange to see him now damning other breweries for being innovative.
did you read at all? nobody bashed him... we're now bashing his crying, but that's it... I don't have to drink his beer or care for what he's doing to appreciate what he did in the past...
Fixed that for you. Times are constantly changing. His brewery hasn't really branched out or experimented lately as far as I know. I don't even give SA a cursory glance since 2013 (roughly the last time I drank a Sam Adams beer)the guy did start off fighting the good fight. created a business that eventually challenged the big boys and opened the door for many, many (too many?) people to charge through.
he succeeded, writ large, in much the same way as a lot of entrepreneurs would like.
it's hilarious to me that people hate him. Heiswas a pioneer. this is bashing the Ramones because they aren't punk enough for today's tastes.
Seems pretty obvious that his beers range anywhere from mediocre to bad compared to the rest of his industry.
I still buy a 12 pack of Boston lager cans now and then. It's a basic, tasty lager that does the trick when your ****ing around in the yard, or camping, etc.
Get with the times old man...it is now all a game and I must drink what my muling group can obtain for me.It still all comes down to this: It's just ****ing beer and drink what you like.
did you read at all? nobody bashed him... we're now bashing his crying, but that's it... I don't have to drink his beer or care for what he's doing to appreciate what he did in the past...
He got to the top through innovation. Many had not experienced beer like his prior. It is strange to see him now damning other breweries for being innovative.
yes, because the Sam Adams bashing is strictly limited not just to this forum but this thread and only the people who respond to this thread.
in the future i'll be careful to skim the forums to make sure i'm not expressing an already agreed upon opinion.
okay, just so long as we agree that your rant about people crapping on Sam Adams had nothing to do with what the tread is about... cry away
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