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I figured we could have a thread for things which aren't interesting enough to warrant their own thread but also not irreverent or amusing enough for the true Random Thoughts thread.

Anyone else not very impressed with the direction Sierra Nevada has been going lately? I'm mostly referring to their seasonal releases and mixed packs, where it feels like they are getting lazier and lazier. Today I saw the new "Winter Snowpack" seasonal variety pack at my local store. It's a case that contains 4 each of Coffee Stout (cool, I'd like to try this), Boomerang IPA (IPA with New Zealand hops, sounds fine but it's yet another IPA from Sierra), and two of their regular shelf beers, Porter and Pale Ale. How do you fill half a seasonal pack with year-round beers, including one that's your flagship and available in half the gas stations in the country? This started in the fall where that variety pack had Pale as well. Not to mention the 6-pack seasonals are getting more boring and I'd argue worse (Ruthless Rye has gotten worse each year, and Flipside is totally bleh and replaced Tumbler which, while not great, was at least something different).
 
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This year's version is equally memorable — and will be equally hard to come by — with an ingredient lineup so wide that Siegel joked it should be called "BCS Massive Carbon Footprint" — cassia bark from Vietnam, cocoa nibs from Congo, coconut water from Thailand and Mexican panela sugar.

The base beer is a tweaked version of Bourbon County Stout, brewed with the addition of rye. The initial idea was a cassia bark (cinnamon, essentially) and cocoa nib BCS aged in rye whiskey barrels. But the result was slightly astringent, leading Goose to make a syrup of coconut water and Mexican sugar that was added as a final step.
 
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I have what might be a stupid question...
Why aren't there any green apple sours/wilds? Is that not something that would be appealing to people? I personally would drink the shit out of something that resembled a green apple Jolly Rancher. Or am I just ignorant to the fact that such beers already exist?
 
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I figured we could have a thread for things which aren't interesting enough to warrant their own thread but also not irreverent or amusing enough for the true Random Thoughts thread.

Anyone else not very impressed with the direction Sierra Nevada has been going lately? I'm mostly referring to their seasonal releases and mixed packs, where it feels like they are getting lazier and lazier. Today I saw the new "Winter Snowpack" seasonal variety pack at my local store. It's a case that contains 4 each of Coffee Stout (cool, I'd like to try this), Boomerang IPA (IPA with New Zealand hops, sounds fine but it's yet another IPA from Sierra), and two of their regular shelf beers, Porter and Pale Ale. How do you fill half a seasonal pack with year-round beers, including one that's your flagship and available in half the gas stations in the country? This started in the fall where that variety pack had Pale as well. Not to mention the 6-pack seasonals are getting more boring and I'd argue worse (Ruthless Rye has gotten worse each year, and Flipside is totally bleh and replaced Tumbler which, while not great, was at least something different).
I'm with you on this. I'll defend them to the death for what they've done over the years.. but it's hard to get excited by a stream of something-IPAs
 
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I have what might be a stupid question...
Why aren't there any green apple sours/wilds? Is that not something that would be appealing to people? I personally would drink the shit out of something that resembled a green apple Jolly Rancher. Or am I just ignorant to the fact that such beers already exist?
Seems like apples would be a hard fruit to age beer with. The flesh of the fruit is very rigid and prone to oxidation, unlike soft stone fruits, grapes, berries, etc...You could always use juice or puree but traditional fruit lambics tend to be aged on whole fruit...Maybe an AWA would work.
 
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I have what might be a stupid question...
Why aren't there any green apple sours/wilds? Is that not something that would be appealing to people? I personally would drink the shit out of something that resembled a green apple Jolly Rancher. Or am I just ignorant to the fact that such beers already exist?
Actually, just tonight I had a taste of Cigar City's Fight the Power Sour Cider... tasted just like green apple Jolly Ranchers. Not what I was in the mood for so I didn't actually order it, but it might me the kind of thing you are looking for.
 
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Seems like apples would be a hard fruit to age beer with. The flesh of the fruit is very rigid and prone to oxidation, unlike soft stone fruits, grapes, berries, etc...You could always use juice or puree but traditional fruit lambics tend to be aged on whole fruit...Maybe an AWA would work.
Good to know. Thanks a lot for the info, as I don't know too much about brewing.

Actually, just tonight I had a taste of Cigar City's Fight the Power Sour Cider... tasted just like green apple Jolly Ranchers. Not what I was in the mood for so I didn't actually order it, but it might me the kind of thing you are looking for.
Thanks for the suggestion!
 

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