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So continuing on from the ‘96 thread who’s got the worst fans in music? My personal picks based on seeing all of these play multiple times.

Belle & Sebastian - like a bed wetters’ convention
Pet Shop Boys - have a small but dedicated minority that follow them around causing aggro down the front at gigs. Chris Lowe is a bit of a gay sports-casual icon which I guess is where it comes from
Kraftwerk - been told off for dancing or more than one occasion
Whoever you and coldstorage are fans of.


 
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Just finished watching Punk Attitude. It is a cool documentary about punk and a glimpse into Punk and how it was influenced and influenced other styles. There are a few other documentaries similar to this. I enjoyed it a little more as it gave more of a background of punk before the hardcore scene.
 
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I have been listening to as many albums from this year as possible. So far I have been disappointed. I'm about half way through the all the albums mentioned in the 2018 music thread.

I really think I have been disappointed because most albums are outside of what I normally listen to. Which was why I decided to do this in the first place. I wanted new music.

Also listened to frizzle fry while drinking last night. I love that album.
If you’re looking for something new to listen to, based on what you normally listen to, you might like my friend’s band Western Settings. They don’t have a “New” album but might be new to you. They just toured Europe with Nothington. Toured with Swingin’ Utters last summer. Have opened for Lagwagon and Strung Out. I think they’re awesome.
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Took a spin through my billion open TB windows on my phone and found the orig draft. Apologies in advance for the already used content in subsequent posts.

coldstorage wrote but did not post said:
Ppl are gonna think it’s some post hoc trolling hangover from the 96 thread but my number one w/ a bullet has always been: propagandhi. I can provide expert testimony I have been fighting the good fight on this for 20+ years. Just the sight of a T-shirt stresses me the fuck out.

You get the already unbearable hell of the ahistorical pop punk cultural solipsist that loudly thinks classic punk and hc is tuneless trash, and therefore has no shame commandeering the historic term for their new toothless bubble gum iteration. Then, hit it with a delusion of political sophistication and innovation multiplier, dress it up in some terminally unfunny humor... and when it gets to the back of the catalog you king it with some watered down back nine of life poor mans "prog" that leaves em babbling utter nonsense. Like it’s not mystifying when a band that sucks starts sucking more, happens every day.

Ever had someone giggle about “ska sucks” and then pivot into some srs business consternation face singing along to “I question the Boy Scouts shouting war”? and then turn to you with a straight face on some “kinda makes you think” tip? It should be illegal.

Finding out someone you love is a fan is like stumbling across their stash of home made beatiality porn. I’d rather sand my toes off then endure one more conversation.

Just in the wild though. Have found all the fans posting here utterly lovely exceptions to the rule!

IMO, ymmv, LYMI, etc.
 
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Took a spin through my billion open TB windows on my phone and found the orig draft. Apologies in advance for the already used content in subsequent posts.
thats not bad at all. though, you seem to me to have a bigger problem with their fans than the bands music.


as a past boy scout (heart) with a ex-drill sergeant as the troop leader i both quickly and easily related to the 'boy scouts shouting war' line. i know mine did. it was attempted indoctrination in the most literal of senses. And it pissed me off. but I know not every troop was mine.

i'm a bit confused as to why you think the 'you can stick it (the flag) up your fucking ass' and 'kill them all and let a norse god sort them out' band is 'toothless bubble gum'. at least as far as any band is concerned.
 
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The toothless bubble gum piece is in regards to the music and not the political content. Aimed at the majority of pop punk listeners (at least, during the height of popularity in the 90s) who will declare how raging the music is while having no interest in, or worse still having a distaste for, the objectively more raging and iconoclastic punk history. The pop punk revolution was a softening of punk traditions in every sense but instead of just conceding that by saying "hey, if i'm honest, i like catchy pop songs and this is a fun synthesis" it's this obtuse bullying and rewriting of history like "this is PUNK, all that stuff before was just music that sucks". 9/10 warped tour attendees would have told you that The Ramones, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Crass, Minor Threat, Flux of Pink Indians, Cock Sparrer, New York Dolls or The Sex Pistols and (even sometimes The Misfits!) "suck" and def would have objected to any sister strand contemporary punk offshoot like the political grinding crust of Havoc Records or the UK post-Napalm Death political blurcore on Earache, etc as being called punk or nominated as more raging. As a person who prioritizes tradition and evolution in music - i've always found this phenomenon really objectionable. (See also: Pantera fans and their reviews of metal before the inclusion of a gated, choppy, palm muted "riff"...)

But yeah, I still can't sift any value out of the above mentioned tracks in terms of them being toothy in any way... as its this kinda over sexualized underhanded pitch of a bad joke that's going to right over home plate for ppl who think the cover of "Heavy Petting Zoo" is funny... and, imo, ultimately about 1/1000th of the political impact of "Jesus died for his own sins, not mine" etc.

You're not wrong, I have more of a problem with the fans than the band, but still really dislike the music as well.
 

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You could say the same thing about street punk, Oi etc. There’s always been people that just want sing-along 3 chord stuff.
 
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